Select Page

Analysis: The big win the January 6 committee has already scored

Politics of the Day

Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren tells CNN’s Wolf Blitzer about the Jan. 6 committee’s interview with former White House attorney Pat Cipollone, who met with the committee for nearly eight hours on Friday.

” data-duration=”02:24″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Jan. 6 committee member speaks out after Cipollone testifies” data-index=”idx-0″ data-show-name=”Situation Room” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/situation-room” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_99b77b66bbe6cc019fce2b9da1bce81d-h_8fff7009be86186214f16c6590b98c1e-pageTop@published” data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/08/zoe-lofgren-pat-cipollone-jan-6-interview-tsr-sot-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_99b77b66bbe6cc019fce2b9da1bce81d-h_8fff7009be86186214f16c6590b98c1e-pageTop@published”>

WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 8: Pat Cipollone, former President Trumps White House counsel, walks into a conference room after a break in his interview at the Thomas P. O'Neill Jr. House Office Building July 8, 2022 in Washington, DC. The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is conducting a closed-door transcribed interview with Cipollone. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

Now playing

Jan. 6 committee member speaks out after Cipollone testifies

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) tells CNN’s Jake Tapper the January 6 committee has received a letter from Steve Bannon’s lawyer saying Bannon, who defied a Congressional subpoena from the committee, is now willing to testify.

” data-duration=”04:02″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Steve Bannon may now be willing to testify before Jan. 6 committee” data-index=”idx-1″ data-show-name=”State of the Union” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/state-of-the-union” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_11aa68bae40ddcfbca1ebb835fff01ff” data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/10/steve-bannon-lawyer-letter-jan-6-committee-sot-lofgren-sotu-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_11aa68bae40ddcfbca1ebb835fff01ff”>

WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 15: Steve Bannon, advisor to former President Donald Trump, arrives to the E. Barrett Prettyman U.S. Courthouse on June 15, 2022 in Washington, DC. Bannon is appearing before a federal judge in connection with his indictment for contempt of Congress for failing to respond to a subpoena from the House Judiciary Committee on January 6. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

Now playing

Steve Bannon may now be willing to testify before Jan. 6 committee

CNN’s Jake Tapper speaks to Illinois Gov. J. B. Pritzker about gun legislation in his state and whether he thinks the father of the Highland Park shooter will be held liable.

” data-duration=”02:10″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Illinois governor: No civilian should have 90 bullets at the ready” data-index=”idx-2″ data-show-name=”State of the Union” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/state-of-the-union” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_e3f1b052ef0376ac93892cc0ce695731″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/10/illinois-governor-pritzker-highland-park-shooting-sotu-intv-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_e3f1b052ef0376ac93892cc0ce695731″>

CNN

Now playing

Illinois governor: No civilian should have 90 bullets at the ready

New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu (R) tells CNN’s Jake Tapper that he believes a recession is coming and blames Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and the Federal Reserve.

” data-duration=”01:58″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”GOP governor: First step to fix the economy? Fire Janet Yellen” data-index=”idx-3″ data-show-name=”State of the Union” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/state-of-the-union” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_7f3c05c92830044dab005499ac8b42f7″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/10/recession-yellen-chris-sununu-new-hampshire-tapper-sotu-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_7f3c05c92830044dab005499ac8b42f7″>

Chris Sununu Janet Yellen Split

Now playing

GOP governor: First step to fix the economy? Fire Janet Yellen

Ty Cobb, the former White House lawyer under President Trump, says Trump deserves blame for his role on January 6 but says criminally charging the former president is a big decision and it depends on the charge.

” data-duration=”05:53″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Ex-Trump White House lawyer weighs if Trump should be criminally charged” data-index=”idx-4″ data-show-name=”Erin Burnett Out Front” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/erin-burnett-out-front” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_827e70e4809e825feab120526f0ca672″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/08/ty-cobb-trump-january-6-ebof-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_827e70e4809e825feab120526f0ca672″>

Now playing

Ex-Trump White House lawyer weighs if Trump should be criminally charged

Abortion rights and pocketbook issues are on voters’ minds in Nevada, but which one matters most? CNN’s Kyung Lah reports on how people are weighing the two key issues as the fall campaign heats up.

” data-duration=”03:01″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Republican voter rejects GOP nominee and says she’s angry over key issue” data-index=”idx-5″ data-show-name=”Situation Room” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/situation-room” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_aa91eb3abef5d0a222744dc393f9524e” data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/08/nevada-senate-race-abortion-economic-issues-2022-midterms-dnt-tsr-lah-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_aa91eb3abef5d0a222744dc393f9524e”>

Now playing

Republican voter rejects GOP nominee and says she’s angry over key issue

Former Trump acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney discusses his reaction to Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony before the January 6 committee.

” data-duration=”02:28″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Mulvaney calls late days of Trump White House ‘anarchy’ and ‘chaos'” data-index=”idx-6″ data-show-name=”” data-show-url=”” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_ac4f4663fa602da84d55b8279b4af037″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/07/mick-mulvaney-trump-january-6-investigation-ctn-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_ac4f4663fa602da84d55b8279b4af037″>

Now playing

Mulvaney calls late days of Trump White House ‘anarchy’ and ‘chaos’

Two-time US Olympic basketball gold medalist Brittney Griner has pleaded guilty to drug charges in a Russian court near Moscow, her lawyers confirmed. CNN’s Matthew Chance has the details.

” data-duration=”02:29″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Hear Brittney Griner plead guilty to drug charges in a Russian court” data-index=”idx-7″ data-show-name=”The Lead” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/the-lead” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_db5834c2fc86a9afbc5f659292b0981a” data-video-id=”world/2022/07/07/brittney-griner-pleads-guilty-drug-charges-russian-court-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_db5834c2fc86a9afbc5f659292b0981a”>

U.S. basketball player Brittney Griner, who was detained in March at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport and later charged with illegal possession of cannabis, is escorted before a court hearing in Khimki outside Moscow, Russia July 7, 2022.  REUTERS/Evgenia Novozhenina

Now playing

Hear Brittney Griner plead guilty to drug charges in a Russian court

CNN Political Commentator Bakari Sellers joins New Day to discuss a CNN report that some top Democrats are frustrated with President Joe Biden’s administration, questioning whether the White House can act with urgency after its response to the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

” data-duration=”03:01″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”‘I want him to throw the first punch’: Hear Bakari Sellers’ message to Biden” data-index=”idx-8″ data-show-name=”New Day” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/new-day” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_aa49c222c1524fe803b0ad88f6f14991″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/06/biden-white-house-frustrated-democrats-sellers-new-day-bts-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_aa49c222c1524fe803b0ad88f6f14991″>

Now playing

‘I want him to throw the first punch’: Hear Bakari Sellers’ message to Biden

CNN’s Edward-Isaac Dovere reports on the Democratic Party’s growing frustration toward President Biden’s administration, with one Democratic lawmaker calling the White House “rudderless, aimless and hopeless.”

” data-duration=”04:45″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”CNN report: This is why Democrats are frustrated with Biden” data-index=”idx-9″ data-show-name=”New Day” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/new-day” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_9033fb35fd0e77027ab52301fb7fc849″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/06/democrats-frustrated-biden-direction-dovere-berman-keilar-newday-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_9033fb35fd0e77027ab52301fb7fc849″>

FILE - President Joe Biden listens to a question during an interview with the Associated Press in the Oval Office of the White House, June 16, 2022, in Washington.  Biden's top political advisers are bracing for big midterm losses in November. They know that the party holding the White House nearly always losses congressional seats in the first midterm election of a new presidency. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)

Now playing

CNN report: This is why Democrats are frustrated with Biden

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) posted a series of voicemail threats made against him and his family in response to his work as part of the January 6 committee. Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) explains why this has him worried about the future of democracy.

” data-duration=”02:22″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”‘I hope you naturally die’: Republican posts threats made against him” data-index=”idx-10″ data-show-name=”Situation Room” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/situation-room” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_7d3ad0f3ad9936317c98fd8557810dbc” data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/05/adam-kinzinger-voicemails-jim-himes-tsr-sot-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_7d3ad0f3ad9936317c98fd8557810dbc”>

WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 27: U.S. Representative Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) speaks during the opening hearing of the U.S. House (Select) Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol on July 27, 2021 at the Cannon House Office Building in Washington, DC. Members of law enforcement testified about the attack by supporters of former President Donald Trump on the U.S. Capitol. According to authorities, about 140 police officers were injured when they were trampled, had objects thrown at them, and sprayed with chemical irritants during the insurrection. (Photo by Jim Bourg-Pool/Getty Images)

Now playing

‘I hope you naturally die’: Republican posts threats made against him

A Georgia grand jury has subpoenaed Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani, former Trump legal advisor John Eastman, and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC). CNN’s Jennifer Rodgers explains what this means for the investigation.

” data-duration=”02:44″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”What Trump’s allies subpoenaed means for Georgia election probe” data-index=”idx-11″ data-show-name=”Newsroom” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/newsroom” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_e3a5a2ef4485c5954690c970e73af278″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/05/giuliani-graham-eastman-subpoenaed-grand-jury-georgia-newsroom-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_e3a5a2ef4485c5954690c970e73af278″>

graham giuliani split

Now playing

What Trump’s allies subpoenaed means for Georgia election probe

CNN’s KFile discovered troubling comments Michigan’s Trump-backed secretary of state nominee Kristina Karamo made about abortions, comparing them to “child sacrifice” in her podcast. CNN reached out to her campaign to get a response and has not heard back.

” data-duration=”03:05″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Michigan’s Trump-backed secretary of state nominee compares abortion to ‘child sacrifice'” data-index=”idx-12″ data-show-name=”Newsroom” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/newsroom” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_11ee2ec7e645ede6ec9d220aabe11a32″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/04/kristina-karamo-abortion-child-sacrifice-trump-michigan-secretary-of-state-nominee-newsroom-kaczynski-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_11ee2ec7e645ede6ec9d220aabe11a32″>

Kristina Karamo, Republican candidate for Michigan Secretary of State, speaks at a rally at the Michigan Stars Sports Center in Washington Township, Mich., Saturday, April 2, 2022. Former President Donald Trump's extraordinary effort to mold Republicans' 2022 tickets will be put to the test this weekend in Michigan, where thousands of party activists will endorse candidates including in a contentious attorney general's race.  (Junfu Han/Detroit Free Press via AP, File)

Now playing

Michigan’s Trump-backed secretary of state nominee compares abortion to ‘child sacrifice’

Until the 1880s, abortions were morally acceptable and legal, with even the Catholic Church approving of the procedure before ‘quickening.’ Historians say the desire to ban the procedure had more to do with business than women’s health.

” data-duration=”02:52″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”The Catholic Church once allowed for abortions. Everything changed in 1873″ data-index=”idx-13″ data-show-name=”” data-show-url=”” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_edc2ab50dec90633683bbccc78bf0c93″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/03/abortion-law-roe-v-wade-history-orig-dp-kj.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_edc2ab50dec90633683bbccc78bf0c93″>

Now playing

The Catholic Church once allowed for abortions. Everything changed in 1873

CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig breaks down the types of federal charges former President Donald Trump could face if the January 6 committee makes a criminal referral to the Justice Department.

” data-duration=”02:48″ data-editable=”settings” data-headline=”Honig explains what possible Trump criminal referral could look like” data-index=”idx-14″ data-show-name=”New Day” data-show-url=”https://www.cnn.com/shows/new-day” data-source=”CNN” data-uri=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_32d47a5ce81307e2eb91eb553b99b990″ data-video-id=”politics/2022/07/04/honig-possible-trump-criminal-referral-jan-6-committee-doj-newday-vpx.cnn” data-video-instance=”archive.cms.cnn.com/_components/video-resource/instances/h_32d47a5ce81307e2eb91eb553b99b990″>

CNN

Now playing

Honig explains what possible Trump criminal referral could look like

CNN  — 

Whether or not Donald Trump ends up facing criminal charges, the House committee probing the US Capitol insurrection has scored a critical win over the ex-President by thwarting his effort to cover up the true horror of that day of infamy.

The committee takes center stage in Washington again this week with its Tuesday televised hearing amid indications it will seek to make a direct connection between Trump and the far-right extremists who helped rioters smash their way into the halls of Congress on January 6, 2021.

This comes after the committee landed telling blows last week by securing testimony behind closed doors from ex-White House counsel Pat Cipollone and as Trump lifted his questionable executive privilege claim covering former aide Steve Bannon.

Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a member of the panel, told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” on Sunday that excerpts of videotaped testimony from Cipollone – who was at or near Trump’s side in the West Wing and, according to other witnesses, pushed back on his lawless instincts – would feature as the committee plans at least one hearing this week.

“He was able to provide information on basically all of the critical issues that we’re looking at, and including the President’s, what I would call, dereliction of duty on the day of January 6,” Lofgren said referring to Friday’s testimony. A source familiar with Cipollone’s interview told CNN’s Pamela Brown that that the former White House counsel, testifying under a subpoena, did invoke executive privilege on some questions – to shield certain information or conversations with the then-President from Congress under the separation of powers doctrine.

Lofgren also said that the committee would likely hear from Bannon, who is set to face trial later this month over his refusal to submit to a subpoena on the grounds that he was covered by executive privilege. This claim is seen as spurious by many legal observers since Bannon had long departed his role as a White House adviser by the time of the 2020 election.

04:02 – Source: CNN

Steve Bannon may now be willing to testify before Jan. 6 committee

Bannon is now willing to testify, ideally in a public hearing, according to a letter obtained by CNN. Such a platform could allow him to mount the kind of high-profile, inflammatory defense of Trump that the ex-President adores but that has been lacking from the committee’s televised hearings. Lofgren indicated on CNN that such a forum was unlikely.

Trump has sought to block and discredit the committee at every turn. His supporters in Congress squelched a drive for an independent commission and key aides, as well as Bannon, have refused to honor subpoenas. But that has not stopped the panel from creating a picture of behavior by the ex-President that is even more disturbing than video and public evidence that was previously available.

As it enters the probable endgame of its investigation, the committee is gathering momentum and whipping up a serious debate over a question with staggering implications: should an ex-President of the United States be charged for alleged crimes against the Constitution that occurred when he was in office?

Through witnesses who were around Trump, hauls of text messages, interviews with key players and even family members of the ex-President, the committee has built a damning case about his insurrectionist behavior.

  • Trump was told multiple times by campaign aides, lawyers and White House officials that he lost to Joe Biden in November 2020. But he persisted with fantastical claims of voter fraud that have deeply damaged US democracy.
  • He imposed extreme pressure on local Republican leaders in key states like Arizona and Georgia to overthrow Biden’s election victories and his attacks severely impacted the lives of election workers in the Peach State.
  • The ex-President tried to bully top officials in the Justice Department into simply saying that the election was stolen to boost his efforts to overthrow the results in battleground states, witnesses testified. He only backed off at the threat of mass resignations.
  • Trump knew that some of the protesters at his January 6 rally were armed but goaded them to march up to Capitol Hill to disrupt the certification of Biden’s election win anyway, according to testimony from a key witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, who worked for ex-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows.
  • As protesters called for then-Vice President Mike Pence to be hanged, Trump told staff that Pence deserved it after he failed to implement Trump’s scheme to overturn the election results, Hutchinson said in another piece of bombshell testimony.
  • With every hearing and every key witness who talks to the committee, the case against Trump grows stronger. The ex-President’s attempt to conceal key details about his dereliction of duty has failed.
  • The committee’s evidence, its use of videotaped testimony from key witnesses and the live appearance of some others have created a head-spinning narrative of an assault on the US political system that is still hard to countenance.
  • The impact of the testimony is strengthening debate over whether the committee, which has no power to launch criminal charges, should nevertheless recommend a Justice Department investigation into Trump.
  • The question is whether any case would be strong enough to justify a risky prosecution of an ex-President. It’s important to remember that the hearings are similar to a prosecutor laying out a case. But none of the witnesses has been cross-examined, holes in their testimony have not been teased out and the panel is presumably only knitting together evidence and testimony that best fits its case.
  • The committee exists in a political context as well as an investigative one. It’s always been unlikely that a probe that includes Democrats and two Republicans who have rejected Trump – Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois – would reshape GOP opinion about the ex-President. Most polling shows attitudes toward the committee split on partisan lines. But the evidence piled up by the panel could still have a role in Republican politics. It poses an implicit question to GOP primary voters about whether they really want to make the 2024 election into a rerun of Trump’s lies about 2020. And if general election voters choose Trump in 2024, no one can say they weren’t warned about his threat to American democracy.
  • Ultimately, it will be up to Attorney General Merrick Garland and senior Justice Department officials to decide whether evidence collected by the committee rises to the level of criminal liability. This would be one of the most acute political questions faced by an attorney general in recent years.
  • That’s because a prosecution of Trump would not only ignite a fearsome political firestorm. It could create a precedent that could lead to abuse in years to come. An unscrupulous future administration could, for example, turn the might of the Justice Department against political opponents who lose power. This in itself would pose a huge risk to the integrity of American democracy.
  • Trump is itching to launch a 2024 presidential campaign, even before the midterm elections, CNN has reported. The aim may not just be to block out potential GOP rivals and to capitalize on Biden’s poor approval numbers. A new campaign would make it easier for Trump to brand any formal investigation against him as politically motivated.

Ty Cobb, a former Trump White House lawyer, told CNN on Thursday that the results of the hearings so far show that Trump deserved to be blamed for his role on January 6, 2021, that the committee had uncovered “serious facts” that concerned him greatly and that charges could be a possibility.

“It depends on the crime,” Cobb told CNN’s Erin Burnett.

“There is anything from seditious conspiracy to attempting to influence a witness,” Cobb said. But he cautioned: “I think the Justice Department has a weighty decision to make about prosecuting former presidents. While that is routine, it seems, in South America, the United States has not seen that. And it will be a significant policy decision.”

Larry Hogan, the term-limited Republican governor of Maryland who is often mentioned as a long-shot alternative to Trump in the 2024 primary, was asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday whether the country could handle the indictment of a former President.

“I’m not sure they can,” Hogan said. “But I think no man is above the law, so if that’s where the facts lead, that’s what has to happen,” Hogan said.

The committee can for now do nothing more than flesh out its case. And this week it will seek to prove that the ex-President was derelict in his duty to defend the democratic system, while he attacked it.

Kinzinger told ABC News’ “This Week” on Sunday that another upcoming hearing would be “very important.”

“Pay attention, because I think it goes to the heart of what is the oath of a leader,” the Illinois Republican said. “You can’t selectively pick what parts of the Constitution you defend or what branches of government, and you certainly can’t be gleeful during that.”

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/11/politics/donald-trump-january-6-committee-hearings-analysis/index.html